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S: Hallo
W: Hallo
S: Habari Daktari
W: Mzuri
S: Its Ssemi Aina hapa
W: Aaah Sema…namna gani…
S: Maina aliniambia jana mlikuwa na
yeye… Lakini nasikia
W: Eehh
S: Mlikosana sana kuhusu mambo ya SGM
W: Aaah. Hatukukusana vile. I only told
him that we don’t need those blocks at the moment. Yeah, because,
the process. You know.. Magelo has no control over it at the moment.
What we are doing right now...
S:Hmm hmm
W: We are moving ahead without; we
want… we have actually pushed Magelo to the wall
S: Yeah, hmm hmmm
W: And some of us are not friends of
Magelo...
S: Yeah…
W: So, you see, if there is anything
that comes in to block the process, I am wondering where we are to
start again…
S: But Walela, Maina tells me mlikuwa
mnamuambia ablock AGM
W: Yes, AGM, not SGM
S: Hmm hmmm
W: The issue was AGM because this one,
Magelo wants to call an election … ile ya 17th we don’t
want kabisa…
S: Yes
W: Yeah, not the SGM
S: Hmm hmmm
W: AGM ndiyo Magelo anataka
ku-manipulate hiyo, na we want an Electoral Board to be in place,
where he will have no control…
S: Yes…
W: Register members and then… all
members must pay 500. Hiyo list yake hiyo ya mia mbili hatutaki.
S: Yes…
W: Ati watu walikuwa wanalipa mia
mbili. Hiyo tulisema we don’t want this. Because we want a new and
fair Electoral Board…
S: But now who constitutes the
Electoral Board?
W: According to the guidelines ni watu
watano…
W: Hallo…
S: Yes…
W: According to the guidelines that we
had done, Magelo was to bring one person, huyu mmoja pia Ochiel one
person, Kituyi one person na Registrar of Societies and FKF and for
me I was comfortable with it.
S: Hmm hmmm
W: Because he cant manipulate
S: Hmm hmmm
W: Yeah!
S: But sasa, If you are.. if the
Registrar has been the one who has been the cause of all these
problems, why invite a partisan group? Because you know at the
Registrar, they are not non-partisan…
W: No… but you see...
S: Hmm hmmm
W: This is a group of five individuals;
S: Hmm hmmm
W: They cant all collude eti waweke …
waweke mtu mwenye ana … After all
S: Hmm hmmm
W: I don’t think Kituyi has given up
on being chairman, I don’t think Ochiel has given up on being
Chairman.
S: Hmm hmmm
W: Yeah, so I know, I doubt if they’ll
collude
S: Yes
W: Eti waweke Register waweke watu wao.
That list … Am very sure hiyo list itakuwa a fair one…
S: Hmm hmmm
W: Itakuwa the true list of members of
AFC Leopards…
S: Haya, you have said it very well
that you don’t think Ochiel ame-give up ama Kituyi …but here is a
question.
W: Hmm
S: I have not heard anywhere that
Ssemi has been mentioned
W: Yeah
W: Its just that you are not in it…and
again
S: Hmm hmmm
W: Even me I am not mentioned and by
the way, I might be having ambitions… ha ha ha… Am taking this
thing to the end. I might throw in a very big surprise….
S: But you see sasa…
W: Eehh
S: You see, Wewe, Ochiel na Kituyi,
nyinyi wote hamtaki election?
W: Yeah yeah
S: Na sasa ndiyo naona, its like now
that you would have created a situation of the majority having their
way, hata Magelo akiweka pale mtu, atakuwa na uzito gani?
W: Uummm… Magelo hatakuwa na uzito
eti anaweka watu wake… hmmm
S: Yeah, that’s why nasema sasa, why
can’t you have a neutral Electoral .. eeh Board? Because…
W: Yeah.. mimi as far as am concerned
that is neutral… because ...
S: No we cannot , Daktari Bwana.. we
can not have contestants, unaelewa .. haya….. now Kituyi
W: Yeah
S: Is Kituyi a faction?
W: Yeah Kituyi is still interested
S: Yes he is interested but is he a
faction? Why is he even being given the privilege of appointing?
W: That was what wasagreed on the
roadmap.
S:You see now...
W: Walisema you were invited lakini
haukuenda
S: Now I want to ask you, pale kwa
Registrar, didn’t the agreement state that the elections were to be
held in April?
W: They were to be held.. yeah
S: And then? Is that what you are going
by?
W: Hmmmm … Yeah
S: Then it means nobody met his
obligations
W: Sasa, wewe unataka watu waeke gani..
how do we arrive at the Electoral Board, for you?
S: Me what I was saying, eh…
W: Yes
S: Number 1 . Sijui kwa nini mnaogopa
Magelo, hii ndiyo kitu sielewi. What you people need to do.. Let the
members know we are going to have an Electoral Board from an
independent Body
W: Like which one now?
S: There are several. We can get
people from.. uhm.. we can get a few guys from different bodies… na
tuwalipe
W: How do we arrive at whoever to
supervise elections
S: That is why, you see, everybody
needs to sit down we need to sit down all of us and agree on either
one body or different people from different bodies, umeelewa...
W: Yeah
S: But you can not be an accused and
then be given the privilege to pick a magistrate who will deal with
your case, that will not happen, it is unrealistic...
W: Because me I want you to mention...
how to get to the, to the whatever.. to whoever will supervise the
elections... because like you see if you demand, what about those
people who want to be Chairmen and have not announced, they may also
come in and demand
S: Exactly and they will not have
benefited from that... Already number 1, eh.. the decisions you are
trying to make they are already hurting Ssemi
W: No I doubt
S: You get my point.. Because, if
Ochiel can have the privilege of appointing someone, why not Ssemi
W: But these people are just there to
see to it that only members are on the register who have paid and the
money is remitted, its with the club
S: Yeah but it doesn't take an
appointee of Ochiel or an appointee of Kituyi or Magelo to ensure
that...
W: Hmm hmm .. because like last year...
S: Even the members can select from
themselves
W: Uhm.. Members selecting its not.. it
is actually impossible; it is impossible for members to select ..
hiyo they can't get a formula on how to select...
S: Na sasa vile SGM imesimamishwa
hivi.. you see, that day tulikaa Nyayo, and I told you guys loopholes
zizibwe...
W: Yeah
S: If you ever want to move forward
with anything...
W: Yeah
S: Unaona? Loopholes zizibwe.. because
the moment you people mnataka SGM iendelee, Magelo hataki hiyo SGM,
haya nyinyi hamtaki AGM, Magelo anataka AGM
W:Yes?
S: You see that creates countless
loopholes …
W:Yeah?
S: You see.. why cant all these things
be dealt with?
W: Now from where?
S: Its just a matter of people sitting
down and you know, kuja, come out in the open, say we don’t want an
AGM at this point, let .. wacha yeye pia aseme hatutaki SGM because
of this and this, wacha Ssemi aseme yeye pia he is not comfortable
with this and this kwa sababu ya hii na hii, you get my point?
W: Yeah
S: And then, kila kitu, every issue
ikuwe addressed
W: Yeah
S: Hapo kwa meza. The problem is, we
are telling members, 'oh.. tunataka tupitishe katiba, halafu tuende
kwa elections' halafu hatuwaambii siri ile iko chini ya meza, the
dangerous card is that we dont want an election..
W: No, not June
S: Yes
W: Because in June, we cannot have a
whatever .. a Register itengenezwe in just two weeks...
S: Yes... but have you communicated,
have you communicated that to the members?
W: Yeah.. people know.. people know
that we cant. That we dont want. Its Magelo who is trying to force
it.. hiyo AGM, that we have elections
S: You know Daktari nilikuwa na watu
jana. Even Lutta alikuwa amesimama hapo na Sadik na Lutta alikuwa
amesimama hapo na huyu kijana anaitwa Caxton Agala, the ones we were
with hapo Nyayo, tulikuwa nao hapo High Court...
W: Yes?
S: And I asked Lutta one question Lutta
hebu tell the truth... is there going to be an election in June 17th
?
W: Yeah?
S: He said Yes
W: Uhh?
S: Na mimi ndiyo nikamuambia, 'Can you
stop lying to the members Lutta. An election to be held on June 17th
is impossible'.
W: Yes?
S: Number One… Lutta goes ahead to
say that an election that has been called by the Chairman and
Treasurer is valid
W: No, its not valid
S: Nikamwambia tell people the truth
because the moment members know that kuna cards zinachezwa chini ya
meza…ndiyo inaleta hii confusion ambayo AFC Leopards imekuwa nayo
since last year
W: But Lutta is not also with them
S: I know he is not with them, that is
why he did not comeout strongly. Angesema ukweli.. But you see Lutta
stands there and says yeye anarepresent interests za Magelo, which is
not true
W: Yes, its not true
S: Yeah, in fact hapo ndiyo mimi, I
told him off.. nilimuambia, 'Listen Lutta, I know you are no longer
with the Magelo faction,speak the truth, so that, let the members
know, kama ni katiba tutapitisha June.. elections tutaenda December,
thats it...
W: Yeah
S: Not that tunawadanganya tupitishe
tukijua eti sisi wenyewe hatutaki election ikuwe hii mwezi…
W: Hmm, OK.. I think lets, we can
arrange... lets meet all of us..
S: Yeah
W: We can arrange.. are you free today?
S: I am free..I am available...
W: OK, uhhmmm.. there is function hapa
ya AFC at Kawangware which am attending nafikiria inaisha tu in the
next one hour or so.. then I can call you.. uuh
S: Hmm hmmm..
W: Yeah
S: Sawa sawa
W: Ikiisha..
S: Ikiisha utanipigia..
W: OK
S: Yeah
W: OK sawa…
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